Anywone got a tip for viable 5v5 ranked game (playing for McG Esl go4lol) (Utube PPGaminGProductions) jungle or ap carry tip pllz (not orianna or anivia)

If you're going to jungle then right now the best you can pick is Nocturne, Lee Sin or Trundle imo. Both are quite fast, have nice ganks and are strong enough to carry a game if their early ganks go well. As for mid I know you said no Orianna but so far she really does seem like the strongest pick in AP mid, lots of utility and early burst to help her dominate early game.

Cyberaltair 21:51, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

For junglers other than those three, I would recommend Cho'Gath as a strong ganker/counter-jungler or Fiddlesticks for an AP jungler. Cho clears camps fast with his AoE auto attack and 2 AoE abilities, he has a super-smite in the form of his ultimate and a rupture from a bush into a 2+ second silence can seal the deal for most gank attempts. From there he can double as an AP mage for the team or a strong offtank, depending on what your team needs. Fiddlesticks gives you a strong jungle champion that doesn't get low on HP and is hard to counter jungle. He gives your team good CC with silences and fears. Add to that his ability to jump out of the jungle with a nasty CAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAW he can make all but the best players panic, opening them up to mistakes. «Texas Snyper» (My Talk - Contribs) 22:07, 9/11/2011

any character is viable, but the reasons are numerious. i would suggest looking at elementz tiers on champions and why they are that way.(Xegzy)