Hi Yatsura, I'm going to review your case because based on the existing information I can't see why you got blocked. The reason for blocking was as follows:
13:41, May 24, 2014 TehAnonymous (wall | contribs | block) blocked Yatsura (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 month (account creation disabled) (Harassment: Left a strong personal attack on another user's wall due to discussion disagreements) (unblock | change block)
Could you please provide a link to the personal attack? If it exists, it was deleted and since Message Walls exist it's very hard to find them. Links to any deleted messages on the thread should also be included. I'm of the opinion that a month's ban is very harsh, especially for an existing editor with no prior warnings. If the evidence you present agrees with my thoughts, I'll speak to Teh about shortening your ban or shorten it myself, depending on the response I'm given.
Please note that at this point you're on an existing one-month ban, so it would be favorable to co-operate with me. I'd first like to get any missing links that you have (as they are proving more difficult to find than I'd like, and you would have better luck finding them in your history) and perhaps a quick summary of what happened and your (non-aggressive) thoughts about it. Thanks!
This started in a discussion between me and the user Deshiba.
In this thread about the removal of cost efficiency I wanted to contribute with arguments, but got totally ignored. After several attempts of repeating and rewriting my points, I got angry and called Deshiba "obstinate" once. I know this was wrong and removed it from my post ~40minutes later and never offended him again since. But it was to late.
Deshiba felt very offended and started to attack me constantly. I tried to answer as neutral and factual as possible, but he kept attacking me nonetheless.
After variousother users started to defend me aswell, he responded with straight lies. Literally. So I felt the urge to defend myself and reveal his attacks with evidence here.
At that point, the administrator Ajraddatz warned us to stop fighting in that thread and gave us the link to the Administrator_noticeboard. For me, it didnt felt right to post it there, because Deshiba obviously had a very personal problem with me, so I thought its a better idea to post on his message board. Thats the strong personal attack TehAnonymous is speaking about.
To be honest, Im seriously clueless how am I supposed to react if I get constantly attacked by an user. Im not allowed to react in a thread of the forum and neither on the message board of the particular user. To create an entry on the Administrator_noticeboard feels like snitching. Even if thats the only way allowed, I didnt expected to get banned if I try anything else.
Thats about it. Thank you very much for your time and attention.
Hello again. Sorry for the delay, I'm trying to gather as much of an idea as possible about the thread and the incident concerning you.
I believe that it would be a very good idea to distance yourself from the thread and from Deshiba. While I don't believe you were constantly attacked, I think that you're actually being punished for a similar warning that has no application to you, and I'm going to assume that you didn't see it, considering it didn't involve you.
I'm going to unblock you for now under a good faith assumption that you won't contribute to the thread any further. Yes, it seems very unfair to bar you from a discussion because of something you feel wasn't your fault, but it's better to stay out of trouble than to dive into things again and nullify this conversation. And please stay civil with comments and conversations in all areas of the wiki, not just these threads!
I believe that you and Deshiba should reconcile under mediation (with myself standing between you), as having a grudge between two users is not good for the environment on the wiki and will bar you from discussions that you may want to express yourself in.That being said, I'd like to ask for your personal opinion on what should happen in this case.
the delay was nearly non-existant and I wasnt even expecting to get such fast reponse. Thank you for that.
Of course I should distant myself from Deshiba, but I doubt there is anything I could do about. I know you said you dont believe he was attacking me, but if calling me "hostile"#48, '"not civil enough to talk to" #62, #105, "pointless"#74 in 5 of ~8 posts in a timefram of 8hours is not constantly attacking, then I have to wonder why Im getting banned for calling him "obstinate" and "liar" once in ~15 posts, even I got evidence about that its actually just the truth. Is there any polite way to deal with this?
I appreciate the unblocking and wont contribute to the thread any further, but considering that Deshiba was constantly provocating me, joked around with the moderator after he banned me and that all this started because another moderator is deleting data at free will throughout the whole wikia because he has "no desire to spend time arguing with thick-heads", I highly doubt that it would make sense to contribute anywhere at all.
This wikia has some serious issues going on and I highly believe, that you are the only one who cares about the environment here.
Thanks for providing more specific instances of the thread, it's very hard to follow upwards of 50 messages without a serviceable history page, especially when things get deleted to the point where the discussion changes dramatically.
When I mentioned you not being constantly attacked, I was more referring to the fact that you were also involved in fight; It's quite important to accept that both parties are at fault in a lot of arguments, and that both parties are hurt. I'm not going to say much more about this case in this respect, except that neither you nor Deshiba have ill intent (that is, you weren't actively seeking to antagonize one another before you joined, nor during the conflict).
If you could provide me with a link to "joking around with the moderator [who banned you]", it'd be much appreciated.
Finally, while I am flattered by your compliment, I assume good faith and believe that the moderators and administrators you were angry at are just as concerned with the wiki and its environment as I am. At the end of the day we're all working towards a common cause. Answering your question of "a polite way to deal with this": If I feel that decisions are made that aren't good, I will bring it up and do something about it (An example is this appeal). And, like you have done, it's entirely possible to raise a concern with the issues on the wiki. The Administrator Board is (though unused until recently) a good way to seek redress in this manner, as you will have a direct link to administrators and if people try to "censor" you, they will show up on the revision history page.
This of course is true in the opposite sense; my decision can be overturned by someone else if they believe that they are correct, but I'm hoping that mine remains, as it's quite clear that the issue's been resolved or is on the verge of being resolved on this side.