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(Champion Rework) Elise, the Spider Queen

1 Growth 18 1 Growth 18
Health 530 (+80) 1890 Attack damage 51 (+3) 102
Health regen. 5.5 (+0.5) 14 Attack speed 0.625 (+4%) 68.6%
No Resource   Armor 22 (+3.5) 81.5
    Magic resist. 30 (+0) 30
Attack range 500 Mov. speed 325

This is a tentative rework for Elise, the Spider Queen. When she was first released, she instantly became a dominant jungler and a strong top laner, one of the few to stand up to Lee Sin Lee Sin in early game power and versatility. That dominance lasted only little over a season, however, after a couple of early Season 4 nerfs slashed her damage, her Spiderlings' tankiness, and her early crowd control. As versatile as she is, she's no longer really good at anything. Problem is, she's not in a state that can be easily buffed, specifically because of her versatility: her kit is overloaded with practically every effect around (burst, DPS, hard CC, sustain, a gapcloser, vision, hard crowd control, range...), to the point where making her strong at one thing (namely, assassinating people) would make her one-up every other champion she'd be competing against, which is why she was so heavily favored in the first place. She has so much early game power that she can't be allowed to scale well, and has progressively slid into a middling bruiser build, unable to kill people as fast as she'd want to.

Effectively, the main issue here is that Elise needs to be good at fewer things in order to truly shine, and likely needs proper downtimes to her abilities. I think she can be the assassin she used to be and still keep a lot of mage-y advantages, with adequate enough tradeoffs. On a gameplay level, I want to remove everything about her that diverts from her assassination potential (Skittering Frenzy being the worst offender, as it's a bruiser ability), streamline her kit so that she has a well-defined combo, along with clear strengths and weaknesses in both forms (heavy CC and no kill potential in ranged form, high yet completely preparation-dependent damage in melee form), and tie in both her forms through her Spiderlings, in a way that both gates the use of her on-demand transformation and takes care of their current issues (namely, being fiddly to control, hard to play against, and deceptively good at providing Elise with a degree of tankiness). Thematically, I want to make Elise a true web-spinner: her human form is supposed to be seductive and seemingly fragile, and I want her to lure her victims into her trap and "prepare" them in ranged form, before switching to her spider form and eating them alive.

Abilities

Spider Form
RANGE: 1200
Spider Form

Innate: Elise's abilities allow her to implant an Egg into her target for 3.5 seconds. If a Sight icon visible enemy in range has an Egg implanted in them, Elise instantly and automatically transforms into a menacing spider for 6 seconds or until the Egg dissipates, gaining 80 - 122.5 (based on level) bonus movement speed and Melee role melee basic attacks, which also hatch Eggs.

Ability Details
Spider Swarm is a on-hit and spell effect.

Additional Information:

This is the lynchpin to the combo mechanic I want to give Elise: I'm shifting pretty much all of her damage to Spider Form, and making her Human Form's spells generally a lot less reliable, though potentially a lot more powerful. In Human Form, my version of Elise has access to a ton of crowd control, including two forms of hard CC, and in order to prevent her from just switching to Spider Form for on-demand free burst, I want her to successfully land at least a spell against her victim. Just as Nidalee Nidalee has to land a spear or get her opponent to walk into a trap in order to enhance her melee form, Elise needs to put herself at risk and act as the bait to her own trap in order to get the most out of her kit. Ideally, this should make her early ganks even scarier if pulled off right, while also guaranteeing her late-game relevance.

Aside from this change to Elise's passive, I'm also reducing Elise's autoattack range to 500 from 550, but also increasing her attack speed growth to 4% from 1.75%, since she wouldn't have an attack speed steroid anymore. Additionally, I made her manaless, as I think her kit below would be well-gated enough for her to not need additional resource constraints.


Neurotoxin
RANGE: 500
COOLDOWN: 10
Neurotoxin

Active: Elise temporarily Silence icon silences the target enemy, causing her next critical strike against them within the next 3.5 seconds to implant them with an Egg.

  • Silence Duration: 0.5 / 0.75 / 1 / 1.25 / 1.5
Venomous Bite
Venomous Bite

Passive: Hatching an Egg deals 45 - 300 (based on level) (+ 90% AP) bonus magic damage and envenoms the target as long as Elise remains in spider form, causing her subsequent basic attacks to deal 15 - 100 (based on level) (+ 30% AP) bonus magic damage to the target, increased by 1% per 1% of target's missing health.

Ability Details
Neurotoxin is a unit-targeted ability.

Venomous Bite is a debuff.

Additional Information:

Neurotoxin is still a point-and-click ability here, in part because it's meant to be Elise's most reliable way of entering Spider Form, but I thought to ease its current non-interactivity by removing its damage, and making its passive activation still dependent on follow-up. Elise could have a unique contribution in the form of a clutch silence, though she'd have to do more to actually deal damage.

Venomous Bite is a bit of a combination between Elise's current spider Q and her on-hit damage: I made it target-specific, so that Elise can't just go about using one Egg proc to kill someone else, and I kept the execution component to encourage Elise to commit as much as possible to fights. I'm removing her sustain, however, since I don't think it really works well on her in her current form, as it tends to make her more of a bruiser. Similarly, her limited time in spider form should ideally prevent her from having her on-hit damage turn her into a bruiser.


Web
RANGE: 500
COST: 1 charge
COOLDOWN: 8
Recharge Time: 50 / 45 / 40 / 35 / 30
Skittering Frenzy

Passive: Elise periodically stores a Web, up to a maximum of 4 stored at once.

Active: Elise lays down a Web at the target location that lasts for 3 minutes.

Elise can lay down up to 4 Webs at once, and laying down an additional Web destroys the oldest one.

Spider Swarm
Spider Queen

Passive: Hatching an Egg summons 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 Spiderlings behind the target, which remain on the field until Elise switches back to human form.

Ability Details
Web is a ground-targeted area of effect ability.

Spider Swarm is a summon.

Additional Information:

The big change here is Web: currently, despite being the Spider Queen, and one with a few tools for establishing territorial control (namely, her current Volatile Spiderling, as well as Rappel), there isn't really anything about her live kit that features webs. In place of her current suicidal scout-bomb, I think Human Elise can afford to have the tools to set up a web around her territory and try to trap her victims in it. I want this to be a versatile tool for establishing area control and setting traps, allowing Elise to set up her web in the enemy jungle and jump her opponent. When ganking, Elise could be able to pre-emptively lay a web in the lane or in the bushes, in order to catch her prey as they try to escape or wander. The important part of this ability would be to plan ahead and set up territory around you, which is one of the reasons why you can hold multiple Web charges at a time.

Spiderlings here are also intended to be a fair bit different in functionality: they're no longer Elise's bodyguards, and instead are purely designed to trail the target they've hatched out of, and output a ton of damage over a relatively short period of time. I gave them total vulnerability to all incoming champion effects, so that their damage could be mitigated by just focusing a little on Elise's pets.


Cocoon
RANGE: 1000
COOLDOWN: 10
Cocoon

Active: Elise fires a web in a line that temporarily Stun icon stuns the first enemy it hits, implanting them with an Egg.

  • Stun Duration: 0.5 / 0.75 / 1 / 1.25 / 1.5
Rappel
RANGE: 500
Rappel

Active: Elise lifts up into the air, becoming temporarily untargetable, before blinking behind the target unit.

Rappel can be cast twice.

Ability Details
Cocoon is a linear colliding skill shot.

Rappel is a unit-targeted blink.

Additional Information:

I mostly nerfed Cocoon here, mainly because I want it to have a smidge less power in order to accommodate a silence and a slow on Elise's kit. Technically, she can only apply one of these effects before shifting to Spider Form, but she'd still have a lot of options to choose from, including some fallback choices. One of Elise's central strengths is her ability to pick off enemies and punish them instantly, and I think that could be preserved on her kit.

Rappel is a weird ability on her live kit, in that it has a ton of utility, including a lot of utility Elise doesn't really need, but that power also means it needs to be on a very high cooldown, which when coupled with its lack of escape potential, doesn't make her assassination pattern all that smooth, as she has no real way of retreating. This is one of the reasons why Elise builds tanky, and I think the advantage to a limited-duration spider form is that it would allow for multiple casts of this ability, so that Elise could Rappel in, deal some damage and then Rappel out.


Infest
RANGE: 1200
COOLDOWN: 125 / 100 / 75
Volatile Spiderling

Active: Elise infests the target unit, causing it to erupt into a flood of Spiderlings on death, each of which remain for 7 seconds and seek out nearby enemies, prioritizing enemy champions.

  • Total Spiderlings: 5 / 15 / 25

Each target can only be attacked by up to 5 Spiderlings, and enemies cannot see which target is infested.

Ability Details
Infest is a summon.

Additional Information:

I'm not a fan of transformation ults, and I think it's a core issue with many current shapeshifter champions: when your champion trades off a powerful active on a long cooldown for instant, on-demand access to a second kit, available from level 1, that champion tends to end up playing at 100% power, or close to it, all of the time. Not only is this a balance nightmare, but it also leads to serious health issues, since the offending champion ends up with insufficient downtimes, and thereby tends to lack windows of vulnerability.

Because of this, I think Elise should have a proper ult, especially since I moved her spider form to her passive. Her kit is already designed to give her distinct highs and lows, but this effect would also allow to contribute in an additional way: as a jungler and roam-friendly top laner even on live, Elise could benefit a lot from an effect that could generate massive surprise threat, and the freedom of targeting to such an effect means Elise could use it as insurance on jungle objectives, protection on allies, or simply an extra degree of threat on groups of enemies. Key to the above kit is its intention to make Elise a true Rogue, i.e. an assassin who trades off target access and upfront burst for powerful disruption, and an ability like this could be a great tool to make enemies scatter.


Pets

Control type Autonomous
Target type Ward
Spell effects The Web does not apply spell effects.

Abilities

Stealth Trap

The Web stealths, arms and becomes untargetable after 2 seconds.

Tangle

If an enemy walks over the Web it Sight icon reveals itself and the area it covers for 2 seconds before disappearing, upon which it implants an Egg into every enemy still standing on it. While active, the Web Slow icon slows all enemies within by 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70%.

Control type Prioritize Elise's most recent attack target
Target type Minion
On-hit effects The Spiderling does not apply on-hit effects
Spell effects The Spiderling does not apply spell effects
Protection

The Spiderling's attacks are mitigated by Blind icon blinds, Counter Strike.png Counter Strike, and/or Aegis Protection.png Aegis Protection, as well as stopped by Disarm icon Disarm.


What are your thoughts? Would you like Elise's kit to be changed in this way? Do you agree that Elise needs a change? If so, what would be your take on her?

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